The Great Debate: No God or Know God?

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Photo Credit: dmu.edu

There has been a question that millions of people have asked down through the ages…is there a God? Or is there no God? Was the earth, living creatures, the planets, stars and universe created by God or did everything just evolve and come into existence by chance? I just read an interesting story on “Best Real Stories” that will give you “food for thought” regarding this great debate.  I am not going to sit here and preach to you…after reading this story, you can decide.

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An atheist professor of philosophy was speaking to his class on the problem Science has with God, The Almighty.

He asked one of his new students to stand and the following conversation began…..

Professor: So you believe in God?

Student: Absolutely, sir.

Professor: Is God good?

Student: Sure.

Professor: Is God all-powerful?

Student: Yes.

Professor: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But God didn’t. How is this God good then? Hmm?

(Student is silent.)

Professor: You can’t answer, can you? Let’s start again, young fellow. Is God good?

Student: Yes.

Professor: Is Satan good ?

Student: No.

Professor: Where does Satan come from?

Student: From…God

Professor: That’s right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?

Student: Yes.

Professor: Evil is everywhere, isn’t it? And God did make everything. Correct?

Student: Yes.

Professor: So who created evil?

(Student does not answer. )

Professor: Is there sickness? Immorality?  Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don’t they?

Student: Yes, sir.

Professor: So, who created them?

( Student has no answer.)

Professor: Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son…Have you ever seen God?

Student: No, sir.

Professor: Tell us if you have ever heard your God?

Student: No, sir.

Professor: Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelt your God? Have you ever had any sensory perception of God for that matter?

Student: No, sir. I’m afraid I haven’t.

Professor: Yet you still believe in Him ?

Student: Yes.

Professor: According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your GOD doesn’t exist. What do you say to that, son?

Student: Nothing. I only have my faith.

Professor: Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has.

Student: Professor, is there such a thing as heat?

Professor: Yes.

Student: And is there such a thing as cold?

Professor: Yes.

Student: No sir. There isn’t.

(The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events .)

Student: Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don’t have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat,
but we can’t go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.

(There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.)

Student: What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?

Professor: Yes. What is night if there isn’t darkness?

Student: You’re wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light….But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and it is called darkness, isn’t it? In reality, darkness isn’t. If it were, you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn’t you?

Professor: So what is the point you are making, young man?

Student: Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.

Professor: Flawed? Can you explain how?

Student: Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can’t even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one.

To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?

Professor: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.

Student: Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?

(The Professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument is going.)

Student: Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher?

(The class is in uproar.)

Student: Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor’s brain?

(The class breaks out into laughter.)

Student: Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor’s brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?

(The room is silent. The professor stares at the student, his face unfathomable. )

Professor: I guess you’ll have to take them on faith, son.

Student: That is it sir… The link between man and God is FAITH. That is all that keeps things moving & alive…

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Food for thought!

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16 thoughts on “The Great Debate: No God or Know God?

      • This guy dies and goes to heaven. When he gets there, St. Peter is standing at the gate. He says, “If you can answer these three questions I will let you in to heaven. First, how many seconds are in a year? Second, how many days of the week have a ‘T’ in them? Third, what is God’s first name? You have until tomorow to answer these questions.”

        The guy comes back the next day, St. Peter asks the first question and the guy says, “Twelve.” “Twelve?” says St. Peter, “how did you get that?” The man replied, “January 2nd, February 2nd and so on.” Peter thinks it over and says, “Well that is not exactly what I meant, but it’s technically corect, so I will give you credit.”

        Then St. Peter asks the second question and the guy answers, “Two.” St. Peter asks how he got that answer and the man explains, “Today and Tomorrow.” St. Peter again admit that wasn’t what he had in mind, but he’ll accept that.

        Peter then asked the third question — God’s first name. The man says, “Howard. ” St. Peter, really perplexed, inquires how the guy got that and the man says, “You know — it’s in the prayer: ‘Our Father who art in heaven, Howard be thy name…’”

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    • You may have missed my story — It looks like I clicked the wrong reply button — just scroll down a bit if you want to see that. Its just a joke.

      The thing about religions is that they all have dogmas that make it difficult — spirituality ought not be complicated. Religion is another story. Mine religious practice is simple. Some are not. So, getting to it, I have a video about how simple spirituality really is:

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  1. The student’s reasoning is flawed – as the brain of the professor can be seen – and so can evolutionary process …. Sorry, but a brain can be seen through modern medical technology – Magnetic resonance imaging. And bacterias are evolving – they have such a short time in generations to follow up that you can see changes in their DNA happening, when you analyse the DNA.

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  2. A scientist once wrote that knowing all the intricacies of a human body, saying it was all put together from some accidental cosmic jell is like saying a jet airliner can be put together by a tornado picking up all the pieces and dropping down a finished product. He finished by saying, it actually requires more faith to believe in evolution than creationism.

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